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[personal profile] auroracloud
I just watched "Out of Time" ie. Torchwood S1 episode 10. And I just want to say: oh, Jack. I wanted to hug him and I kind of cried. And I also kind of want to write fic.

It so much broke my heart in Doctor Who S3, when Jack returned, how long he'd been abandoned without knowing what happened to him and why, and how hard it clearly was for him. He was a lot darker and more bitter than before, and for a good reason. Now, watching Torchwood S1, it's been obvious in a lot of episodes that it's been eating away on him, all of it, what happened and the long time that has passed and learning to live with everything without understanding why, and just the fact that nobody's meant to live with all that, and it has all sorts of effects on him. But this episode showed more clearly than any before just how damn lost he feels. Poor Jack. Want to hug him. Love that he still keeps going, with all that.

It was maybe the best episode so far, I thought, really well-written and powerful all around. And I liked that it was the first totally non-gory one. I like Torchwood despite the unevenness of the writing, but it is generally too gory for my tastes. I have all kinds of thoughts about the series that I want to write - many of which I did write but they need updating and finishing before I feel I can post them - but anyway, I love the characters and the premise, even if the execution varies. I'm not as obsessed with it as with Doctor Who, but it has a pull of its own.

Though one problem nearly all of these episodes have: there's too little Ianto. Hopefully that'll change eventually?

Date: 2016-10-11 09:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trobadora
Out of Time really is brilliant. It's one of my two favourite episodes from s1. (The other is Captain Jack Harkness.)

And I think it's really striking how much better Jack deals with things once he knows what actually happened to him.

(I'm not much of a fan of Ianto, but his role definitely becomes larger lateron, yes.)

ETA: Btw, you're still going to sign up for [livejournal.com profile] public_call, right?
Edited Date: 2016-10-11 09:08 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-10-12 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auroracloud.livejournal.com
I'm looking forward to Captain Jack Harkness then, as well. (Of course, given the description and title, I was already curious about it! Just one episode to go in between.) Out of Time really was very brilliant.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the whole of Jack arc unfold as I finish watching S1, then do Doctor Who S3 again, then see how he deals with things in Torchwood S2! One of the reasons I've been holding back on actually finishing any fic, just writing some bits that eventually will go into a fic - it'll help once I know what the Torchwood canon does with him, regardless of whether I use Torchwood events or not.

OK, I figured he'll probably have a bigger role in the future, what with how much his relationship with Jack is talked about. *g* I imprinted on Ianto in Stolen Earth, but S1 has been kind of random about him so far - mostly he's on the sidelines, except then there's Cyberwoman, and there's very little dealing with the events of Cyberwoman afterwards (how do they get from that to stopwatch innuendo in a few episodes, for starters?). It's like I don't even know what my instinct of liking him is based on because they're showing so little of him.

Yeah, I'm going to sign up, thanks for reminding! My life's been kind of crazy lately and it was hard enough to get my Yuletide sign-up done in time. But I'm going to start working on that one next, don't want to leave it until the last moment.

Date: 2016-10-14 10:33 am (UTC)
trobadora: (Default)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
I'm looking forward to hearing what you think about Captain Jack Harkness! :)

About Ianto, fandom imprinted on him in early season 1, and the pairing grew big very quick. I never really understood why either. *g* But an actual on-screen m/m relationship was a big thing.

Looking forward to your sign-up!

Date: 2016-10-15 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auroracloud.livejournal.com
I'll definitely post my thoughts when I've watched it. I watched Combat the other day and it had the trailer (?) for the next episode in the end, and that already made me squee. :-D I've sort of got it (and the last episode, if I feel like it) slotted for tomorrow, but my plans these days don't always hold, so we'll see how it goes.

For Ianto, I think my fondness rests at least partly on my general fondness for the quietly efficient types who are good at deadpan snark, but I think that's not the only thing. But the episodes so far don't show enough to tell if my instincts about him are correct (or even be able to phrase what they are, specifically), so I look forward to him doing and saying more. In any case, I bet a canon m/m relationship was quite a bit thing in itself. (Also with Jack being himself in Doctor Who S1, I was like "Seriously, they're giving us this in canon? We don't have to make it up in our own heads in fanfic?")

I've nearly finished writing my sign-up, so I intend to do it tonight, and then possibly fix things tomorrow before the deadline, if I get better ideas about how to phrase something. My brain has recently sucked at transforming any thoughts into words. Bah.

Date: 2016-10-16 10:22 am (UTC)
tinny: Something Else holding up its colorful drawing - "be different" (drwho_tw_jack skyscraper)
From: [personal profile] tinny
It's weird, I can always remember which episodes you're talking about from Doctor Who, even if I don't recognize the episode titles right away. But Torchwood? I can't for the life of me remember anything except the pilot and Children of Earth. Not a good sign. ;)

Date: 2016-10-16 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auroracloud.livejournal.com
This is the one with the plane from 1953 landing in Cardiff and three people being stuck in the 21st century. Ring any bells? :-)

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